If you're longing for a version of social media that you don't hate, Lori Reising (she/her) has some powerful advice for creating an aligned social media practice that supports your business and your life. She talks about sovereignty, the power of choice and quitting "trying" to do the good habits.
Lori brings you over 2 decades of experience as a Holistic and Trauma-Informed Healer, Intuitive Medium, Embodiment Guide, Ritual Facilitator and Fear Culture Disrupter. As the host of the soul-hitting podcast The Raw and Wild Hearts, her enthusiasm for your potential is palpable. Lori came into this physical world with the ability to hear, see and feel messages from her higher self and guides. She brings her experience from lifetimes for your ultimate transformation of deep cultural programming and conditioning to rediscover your life force energy and majesty in a life with your birthright of joy and ease in this wild human journey. Her deliverance of meditation and cosmic guidance offers access points to the evolutionary and creative expansion we were sent here to embody. Her playful energy will reignite your inner child. Her passion for your multidimensional potential is unstoppable!
Lori's links.
Website: www.therawandwildhearts.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/therawandwildhearts
Instagram: www.instagram.com/therawandwildhearts
Facebook: www.facebook.com/therawandwildhearts
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-reising-81290938/
Alexis' links.
I hang out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexisbushnell/
Find me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SocialMediaForHumans
Join the club to learn more about ethical and effective social media marketing: https://socialmediaforhumans.club/
Voice over by Hawke Wood: https://www.spotlight.com/3490-9081-8844
Buy me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AlexisB
Alexis' links.
Me on Toot Wales: https://toot.wales/@alexisbushnell
Or on Calckey Social: https://calckey.social/@AlexisBushnell
I hang out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexisbushnell/
Me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bushnellcs/
Find me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SocialMediaForHumans
Join the club to learn more about ethical and effective social media marketing: https://socialmediaforhumans.club/
Voice over by Hawke Wood: https://www.spotlight.com/3490-9081-8844
If you're longing for a version of social media that you don't hate, Lori Reising (she/her) has some powerful advice for creating an aligned social media practice that supports your business and your life. She talks about sovereignty, the power of choice and quitting "trying" to do the good habits.
Lori brings you over 2 decades of experience as a Holistic and Trauma-Informed Healer, Intuitive Medium, Embodiment Guide, Ritual Facilitator and Fear Culture Disrupter. As the host of the soul-hitting podcast The Raw and Wild Hearts, her enthusiasm for your potential is palpable. Lori came into this physical world with the ability to hear, see and feel messages from her higher self and guides. She brings her experience from lifetimes for your ultimate transformation of deep cultural programming and conditioning to rediscover your life force energy and majesty in a life with your birthright of joy and ease in this wild human journey. Her deliverance of meditation and cosmic guidance offers access points to the evolutionary and creative expansion we were sent here to embody. Her playful energy will reignite your inner child. Her passion for your multidimensional potential is unstoppable!
Lori's links.
Website: www.therawandwildhearts.com
YouTube: www.youtube.com/therawandwildhearts
Instagram: www.instagram.com/therawandwildhearts
Facebook: www.facebook.com/therawandwildhearts
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-reising-81290938/
Alexis' links.
I hang out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexisbushnell/
Find me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SocialMediaForHumans
Join the club to learn more about ethical and effective social media marketing: https://socialmediaforhumans.club/
Voice over by Hawke Wood: https://www.spotlight.com/3490-9081-8844
Buy me a coffee: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/AlexisB
Alexis' links.
Me on Toot Wales: https://toot.wales/@alexisbushnell
Or on Calckey Social: https://calckey.social/@AlexisBushnell
I hang out on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/alexisbushnell/
Me on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bushnellcs/
Find me on Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/SocialMediaForHumans
Join the club to learn more about ethical and effective social media marketing: https://socialmediaforhumans.club/
Voice over by Hawke Wood: https://www.spotlight.com/3490-9081-8844
Hello and welcome to Social Media for Humans, the podcast that empowers you to do social differently. Your host Alexis Bushnell and her guests discuss their experience of social media as business owners, users, and ultimately humans. With insights and advice to help you find an effective and ethical strategy that works for you. Grab yourself a drink and join the conversation.
Alexis:Hello hello, I am here with wonderful Lori please introduce yourself tell us who you are and what you do.
Lori:Hello Alexis and hello everyone, thank you for having me, my name is Lori Reising, my pronouns are she her and I am a trauma-informed healing artist, a meditation guide, a ritual facilitator, an embodiment guide, a retreat leader, but really I'm your biggest cheerleader into your divinity and magic because I know what we can do and what we came here to do and I just want to unleash that majesty as much as we can in these human lives. Oh and I'm a host of the podcast the Raw and Wild Hearts.
Alexis:So many amazing things. Lori: Yeah I wear many hats for sure. It's interesting you kick off with trauma because I will say I am processing a lot of my own trauma right now and I know it is something that is being talked about a lot more on social media, but I also know that social media is kind of causing problems with some people who are processing their trauma, it is making things sometimes more difficult to process and bringing stuff up maybe a little bit sooner than it would have been ideal to have that brought up, so I'm interested in sort of your take on that, like how is social media impacting both people who are dealing with trauma at the moment and also how is it potentially causing trauma in people who maybe were totally balanced and fine and happy beforehand?
Lori:Well okay first of all totally balanced and fine and happy is that's really big because I don't you know, I think that we achieve that at points in our lives but the human journey is one of struggle, of fluctuation, of energy shifts. So I think that number one that's something that really does us an injustice that we have this bar that's raised that we're supposed to feel good all the time so when we actually normalise the fluctuation of the human journey then we don't get that I'm, you know, that inner critic that there's something wrong with me, I'm not doing it right, and that's where social media can come in with that comparison culture because we're seeing because people. Okay anything with media you're trying, someone's trying to buy something from you right, like they're selling something to you, you're buying something from them, right? With your attention and with your care and with your energy and so you know even the people with the best of intentions, you know, someone has a different energy fluctuation that day and they're in a different space and then they get hit with your extreme bliss and happiness and if we're not completely authentic with it yeah, that comparison culture can come up and then that standard of you know what, like one size, I like to say one size force all comes up because that's kind of where we were raised it's like oh everyone has to produce at this level, if you're not working like this then your worth isn't there, you know? It's like there's so much that's wrapped up into it so I think that the more that we hold social media in an authentic light rather than like this holy grail of like, oh that's where we're gonna get the business and that's where, you know, we have to show up every day on social media and then we exhaust ourselves. So there's a lot of cycles that go into social media and media in general and I think I don't know any human that wouldn't actually fall prey to them, and I say that in a way that that's we fall prey to being human like but let's normalise it because it's such a beautiful journey and when we embrace the shadow, we embrace the fact that we all have trauma no matter how you came in, where you came in, if you're a human you have had some level of trauma, money or not money, you know, we put so much focus and emphasis on money for happiness and so you know, starting there like I feel like that's a really beautiful place to just hold in your heart and have that be your bar like we are going to experience trauma, even if you feel and I quoted that, if you feel like you've worked through all of your trauma there's gonna be more coming. We live in this chaotic, crazy world and we have to interact with it right, and so trauma will come and so the more that we can fluctuate with it, the more that we can feel and heal, and the last thing I want to say Alexis because I want to hear what you have to say more about this is that I like to call it your stream of consciousness, so if you get really deliberate with any media consumption you can create a really beautiful stream of consciousness and this includes following, unfollowing, like however you're feeling that day if that is not the energy, if that energy is bringing you down, it's creating a lower vibration for you, and if that's what feels right to you is to unfollow it, to release that energy from your system and your stream of consciousness, go ahead take care of yourself. And that's where I feel like you know we even start to get into this place on social media like "oh they followed me, I need to follow them but it makes me feel really horrible," like we have to. So I'm an embodiment guide, I actually help people feel their body consciousness which is our inherent navigation system that we came in with that we've been disconnected from and disassociated from in our linear based culture, so when you feel your body consciousness and when it's telling you something, when you see something on social media and your body tenses up that's a message, that's a message to take action just like pain is a message, it's a beautiful message to let you know that you need to shift something in your lifestyle to create homeostasis again. I know that was a long answer but it was a big question Alexis!
Alexis:That was really interesting and I think it gives people a lot to think about as well because I do think we like to simplify things, you know, we like to say like "social media is bad for our mental health," we like there to be a firm answer, "this is true in all cases and that's just how it is." And a few things I've noticed when you talk about sort of the body consciousness, this is something I hear people talk about without them realising that they're talking about it so much with social media, is when they are saying like people don't like social media, I don't like how it makes me feel, I always feel stressed afterwards, when I use Instagram I feel like this, when I use Facebook I feel like that, and I think but that's a sign that you need to change something, like that is a sign. If you're coming away and you say you're feeling really tense and you're like "oh I don't know what to do with myself, I just feel horrible," that's not social media is bad, that's the way you're engaging with it right now is bad. And I think that feels kind of horrible because I think we like to, it's a lot easier to give up our agency and say like "it's not it's not me, it's social media, Mark Zuckerberg's the bad guy," I mean yes, he is the bad guy but also we do have a choice in how we engage with social media, and these tools that we have, and so checking in with ourselves and allowing ourselves to be empowered to make changes is so, so important. And this also kind of ties in I think to how people are sort of consuming the mental health content, and just all content really that is impacting their mental health, because certainly I find that there is a lot of really useful content on social media, there is really great educational content around mental health and everything else, and there is really great resources on tips you can try, breathing methods you can try, quick videos of how to become embodied for a moment and check in with your body and things like that. That information is out there and it is so much easier to access now and it's also much easier for us to access when we need it, and again this comes back to us sort of choosing to follow and unfollow and and navigate social media differently rather than willing it to be good or bad, you know, one or the other, and people do find it really difficult to sort of step away and go "okay, my feed makes me feel yucky and horrible, how do I change that?" And it's when I talk to people and they're like "okay, I hate Instagram and because like all the accounts I follow are doing so well and they're amazing and they're so successful and they're telling telling me about their multi-million dollar business and their fabulous family life and that this is happening for them and that's happening but it's all amazing," and I'm like what are you... why didn't you unfollow them? And then there's always that moment of pause where they're like "that's a good question but I don't feel like I can," and you can see the internal debate happening of yeah, that's a really obvious answer but I should be following them because whatever, because maybe it's I think it's going to motivate me, I think it's going to inspire me but it's not, like clearly it's not if you are saying I see these things and it just makes me feel awful, you're not motivated, you're not inspired, it's okay to unfollow those people.
Lori:Yeah so it's really interesting that you bring this up and I love that you brought in agency because the more that we step into our sovereignty and embody that and realize where are those motivations coming from every day. So I'm a ritual facilitator, we are creating ritual every single day, it's subconscious ritual and that that's the difference between habit and ritual, habits are the subconscious rituals that happen every single day, rituals are the intentional practices that we do for a specific purpose. So I think once again it's like we have to come to these inherent truths and the inherent truth is you are engaging in a practice every single day, the more you do it the more it becomes like an addiction, right, so habit, practice and addiction, you know we can look at those terms and they all have separate meanings but yet they're very similar, okay, and so when we do something continually we actually develop neural pathways that support us continuing to do that, and this comes into the mental health conversation as well, and so it takes a lot of presence, a lot of energy and a lot of deep work on our belief systems that have been born from those habits that have been subconscious and they get very deep within us, that's what our culture does to us the programming, you know the conditioning that happens from when we're in the womb, it happens before we're even born into this world, it's very very very powerful but we are just as powerful, we didn't get that message, we only got the message of what we should do and what we should be and the one size fits all and, you know, if you produce this much then you're going to be worthy. And we're also looking for gratification externally so you know we can look at social media that way too and, Alexis, I completely agree with you there are like there's so much free education out there and people are coming online with the gifts that they came in to share with true passion, we're really shifting that dynamic here and I love it, I'm so here for it but I think that the the biggest piece here that you touched on is our agency and realising what's the practice you're engaging in every day, is it raising your vibration, is it giving you motivation, is it feeling supportive or is it bringing you into a lower vibration, is it contributing to you know more difficult mental health days, and that's something that only you can decide, only you know that, no one else knows that. So once we actually take personal power and sovereignty over our lives and realise that we make choices every day, what are the choices you're gonna make now? I'm so excited to have this conversation with you today because I have been on a social media break for, I don't know, three weeks now something like that because there's a lot of Piscean energies and these are very divine energies and I've been called to deepen my practice and I had to do deep belief system work around that because I've been creating an online practice or online business now for a year, year and a half, and you get hammered into you that you have to be on social media, you have to show up every day, you know, you have to get the following and the engagement, you know what I'm talking about, I mean this is what you're sharing in the world. And so you know, the Piscean energies right now are giving us this really rare and beautiful opportunity to make deep changes in our behaviours, but if you're not tapping in then, if you're just staying in the loop of what is habitual, what you've gotten so used to, you've created a neural pathway for it even if it feels terrible, then you don't realise that there's some energies that you can actually make a shift and you feel the results. And when you feel the results, when you feel good, when you do it, let's say you do it for three days and you're like "oh my god, I feel really good" for three days that fuels where you're going because that's internal gratification instead of looking for the external gratification, and so I've gotten to the point where I don't even know that I want to go back, like I'm not completely done, I've jumped on like once to share a powerful message that was coming through because I'm connecting so deeply with my divine self and my higher consciousness away from social media. I don't turn on my phone for at least an hour to an hour and a half when I wake up in the morning, like these are little practices that make huge differences but you have to be tapping in because when you feel it in your body your body guides you. If you're only thinking about it and you're staying in the belief system or what's been created in your linear control mind then it's really hard to follow those impulses and it's really hard to even feel the results.
Alexis:Yeah yeah and it's interesting that you're saying like you've sort of, it's been difficult for you to sort of go "right okay, I'm gonna go off social media for a bit" because I feel it in myself there is a resistance to dropping in and feeling and to trusting what you're feeling and so I notice that I can feel the energy shift and I'm like "oh it doesn't feel good to be doing what I'm usually doing" but there is not switching the brain off but switching over and being like "okay I'm gonna figure out what this feeling is and what it's telling me and how I think I should be changing things accordingly and then try that," there is so much resistance to that and a lot of it is, like you say, because we are taught to be in our brains, you know, we are taught to use our intelligence and that's the thing that matters and it doesn't matter about your emotions or what you're feeling and all that woo woo hippy dippy shit, that doesn't matter, what matters is logic. And apparently we're all becoming Vulcan now! And so it makes it really difficult I think for people, including myself, to feel those shifts and allow yourself to to go with them because we are in this society where we are like this is what my work day looks like and I do that five days a week every week regardless of what is happening, nothing ever changes, that's just how it is and it doesn't allow for natural fluctuations in ourselves, in our own bodies for illness, for life stresses, for things going on in the larger world, for anything like that, and we are trained so much and we work so hard to ignore those things and keep focusing on like no, we just do this, this is the routine, this is how we do it, this is what we do. But it's really weird to me even from a capitalist perspective because I think, every time I speak to somebody or I myself allow myself to tap into that and go okay my energy levels are really low today say so I am not going to work today, I'll shift what I was going to do today to tomorrow or maybe I'll work a day at the weekend or whatever, I'm just gonna let myself rest, I'm gonna maybe do some some self-care, have a nice long shower, whatever. If I do that I feel much better. The next day maybe I get all the stuff I was supposed to do the day before done and a little bit more, and it fascinates me that even though that is true for basically everybody, like if we listen to what we need and to what's going on and adjust things accordingly we are more motivated and more creative and more productive, and yet we still are determined to be like "no, let's not listen to any of that, let's just keep pushing on doing the thing that is not working." Lori: I mean that's how deep the programming runs because it continues to run. So even when, this is where I say we're going to continually have trauma so even when we do our deep work, our deep and belief system work because that's really what this is coming down to, because those belief systems are what are being built inside of us since we before pre-language even because our sensory system understands everything that's going on around us, we are energy, everything's energy, this is scientifically proven at this point right. And so yeah, like that's really deep belief system work that we have to continually work on and that's why I'm so focused on the ritual part where we make a conscious choice every day of what we're going to engage in because when we don't those messages come in and they pull us back to what we knew, those neural pathways that got so comfortable in where they've developed because it's over and over and over right. And so because there is on social media, it can be social media I don't know I guess we're lumping everything in like Facebook, YouTube, all of the things, but this is where you can find the people that help you create an excitement and a passion about a new way of living, right? About creating conscious choice every single day and I say when you find those people, those mentors, those colleagues, those friends, whatever like stay with them, you know. A lot of people are releasing free content at this point because you were talking about the capitalist structure that we're in, well we're in the Pluto return now like there's at least for the US but that ripples out to everyone because there's a ripple effect everywhere all the time, and so those structures are getting dismantled. It's not going to happen like that, we're so used to immediate gratification and that's something we have to look at for a belief system, but you know they are going to be dismantled and we are here to rebuild them so the more that we make the choice to create deep change, even though it's uncomfortable at first. So there's something called healing pain when I do trauma work with people through the body, and as you start to unravel a trauma either physically or emotionally, from your body not the conscious mind, you can go through a very deep pain that's stored in the body at the time of impact and it's stored very deeply in ourselves so as you open that up and those emotions and those pain symptoms start to come out a lot of people shut down from fear of the unknown, okay, and so then they trap that pain even deeper in their body. And so these capitalist structures, these belief systems, where have they gotten us? Now we know for sure they've gotten us to dis-ease, to stress, right, to discontentment, to stagnation, to blockages, they've gotten us to efforting so hard, and that's the hustle culture we have to effort so hard the whole time we're living in these human bodies and then you know we retire and maybe we have a few good years or maybe like, who knows, it's like what?! How about we have good years all the time like where we're at! And so we've been sold a bunch of BS for a very long time but there's a lot of people right now coming online to change these systems deeply and, like I said Alexis, I am so here for it. So when you find those people, even if you find them through social media, you don't have to stay on their social media channels if it doesn't feel good, you know, get on their website, get on their mailing list, they're giving you so much beautiful content and if you want go further with them invest in what they're doing because then the more that they get lifted up in their business the more people they can affect, and when we do this with each other there's a ripple effect and we create a whole new way of small business, of connection, and this is where when we, oh it's hard because when we, you know, tap out of social media a little bit and tap really deeply into our higher consciousness we get the messages of what we were sent here to share. We were all sent here to share something very deeply, when you tap into that you have such belief, such passion and such excitement about the unknown because you have a divine trust in where you're going because it's emanating from your cells, it's not just your control brain saying "I have to do this to make the money, to get the house, to you know all the things," and then yeah of course it's still a job but doing the work is fulfilling right? And then when we're fulfilled and we understand that we can go through the fluctuations, we have the downtime, and when we understand that the downtime, the connection time, the soul time actually brings us more elevated in our business because we show up from a full cup and people feel that when we start running on energy instead of "supposed to" and "control minds." Like we like to control our bodies with our minds, we like to control our emotions, and that has gotten us into a very fractured place so when you start to open up to the realm of like spiral living, possibilities everywhere, you know, fluidity and flow, you know, releasing the stagnation and the blockages, like even now I just want to like move my shoulders, then we live in such a beautiful state of I want to say balance but like a state of joy and ease, even in our businesses. Now don't get me wrong, I'm in the beginnings of an online business and there's a lot of work that's put in, but when I feel so passionately about what I'm sharing, you know, there's a level of commitment and excitement there that doesn't create disease and stress that a job that you have no passion for, that you're only doing to get the insurance benefits, and believe me there are people we have to do that still, like we've got a ways to go with this, but there are people that are really trying to pioneer this into a new earth way of living and I think that the more that we look at our social media habits, practices and choices I think that that ripples out into the community as well, Alexis. Yeah yeah there's there's two things that actually I sort of took from that that I want to sort of build on and they kind of tie together and one of them is this idea of like working from your passion because that is something that really shows when you are creating social media content whether you're putting out free content, in your trainings that you do, in your things that you create, in everything, if you have that real belief and that love and that passion and that motivation that is coming from this is the thing that I love, this is what I want to share, this is what matters to me, that comes through even through a phone screen, even through you know a 280 character Tweet are we at now?! It comes through even in those sort of small spaces on social media and that is what draws people to you and I think this is something that is lost when like authenticity is like the buzzword now and everybody wants to be authentic but all that is is just allowing you to come through and you can't fake authenticity like that because the point is that it's you tapping into whatever is inside of you and just putting that out there, and I think alongside that comes this fear of that is going to turn some people off, like there are going to be people who disagree, who haven't done the work yet, who don't want this to change, who are very invested in whatever it is that they believe, and they are going to see this content and they are going to come at me, or I am going to lose followers or clients or whatever because I've put this out there and it's really sad to me to see the kind of internal war in people when I work with them, especially around this, because so many people start to understand like yeah okay authenticity, I want to be myself, I want to bring people to me who who believe in what I do and who I gel with and who I get on with and who are my people, but I am so terrified that I am going to bring forth sort of the wall of trolls who just want to yell at me and I don't feel able to sort of manage that, and so people pull back and try and keep those walls up and keep that control so that they avoid that and then the knock-on effect from that is less traction in their business, and fewer followers on social media, and less engagement because the people who are there for them aren't really getting all of them because they're trying to avoid the other stuff so I'm really interested sort of is there anything that you can recommend I guess to people because it is something that I discuss a lot with people and they really struggle with. Lori: Absolutely I'm so glad you asked so I'm actually gonna take the word authenticity and shift it a little bit because when we are in alignment within ourselves we have a deep sense of trust, and when you trust what you're sharing you trust your message it's the difference between selling from a place of trust and excitement because you know it's going to change people's lives opposed to selling from a place of need because you need that money, because it's scarcity right, the scarcity mentality of like "if I don't get this sold there's gonna be nobody else," you know. And we can apply this to relationships too, you know, people don't leave relationships because "there's nobody else out there," like we're sold that this is the only thing you have to stay with this right, and we live in a benevolent universe, it's so abundant and there's a shit ton of people here, right, so let them go, you don't want them, honestly because then you create more space for the people that want your message, that are magnetising to your message, because if those people stick around that are the troll type energy, that are dragging, that are opposing, that are staying in this like fractured dualist culture that we have, right, instead of rising above and being in this place of like I want the aligned stream of consciousness, I don't want to sit here and argue on social media, like what a waste of my life, what a waste of my time right, so you want those people to go because they're dragging your energy, so holding on to them to have the numbers is coming from a scarcity belief system. And no judgment here because this is deeply deeply ingrained in us to be in scarcity, that's how we've been sold things, sensationalism culture sells us things if we're in scarcity and they tell us we need this to be happy, we need this external thing to be happy, even social media people that are out there, and you know I was victim to this in the beginning too they were like "you need to engage every single day, you need your numbers to look like this," and I was pushing myself to the point of exhaustion because I wasn't in alignment and I was still sharing a post I'm not putting out my best energy so I would rather take the space to get in alignment and be well and share from that place of trust and love instead of need and fear right. And so there's one other thing I want to share about this Alexis because I think this is important, I haven't had to do it and I'm totally open to doing this if it comes my way like I'm just putting that out to the universe right now, but there's a reason that there's the delete button and the block button. This is your page, this is your message and even if you delete and block people that are bringing negative energy to your field this is your agency, you're sharing yourself, this is your page, you can have boundaries, the other people that want to hear your message are going to come because you're going to feel so much better because you're not being drained from the people that you feel like have to stay for scarcity or number reasons. And that's why I say like taking the time to do intentional practice of getting in your alignment and feeling your body consciousness, oh this I did want to touch on this when you said the woo-woo hippy-dippy shit, we all are, that's how we came in, like we are energy and I think the more that we transform that idea right, because that was sold, we were sold a bunch of fear on that, a fear of our power, of our magic, of our abilities. This is our manifestation creation energy that was fractured from us and so when we drop back into that and when you get into alignment and you feel the messages, you hear the messages, you get the internal navigation system, you get to turn off the control brain which is our fear brain, our learned fear brain, you get to turn that off or turn it down, turn up the alignment piece in you, then even. I just wish that we would get off the numbers thing because that is a linear mind, it's a school system basis whatever I want to say, and we got so focused on that right, so let's say I have you know, 10 000 followers with 5% engagement or let's say I have 3 000 followers with 50% engagement, I feel like that's actually a no-brainer, so when we reframe things and look at it in that sense it's like wait a second. I know for me I've gotten frustrated because I'll try to engage people and if they're not engaging with me I'm like "oh, so why are you here? Like are you here," because it's clear I'm sharing a message here, so when I'm on other people's pages I try to engage when I have time. When you're building a business, you know, you do have to prioritise your time, especially because alignment for me is very important but you know, I'll be like I mean you don't have to be here if you don't want to engage with me, you know, and I'm not going to feel bad about sharing what I know can change people's lives right? So they can either go or they can stay but I also have the sovereignty to choose if they go if they're creating a negative energy on my page because everyone feels it. This is truth at this point, we all feel energy all the time. We've been told to deny it, we've all been gaslit away from who we are, right, and so it's like when you feel something and you honour it and you act on it you're gonna feel it more and you're gonna hear it more because that's you co-creating with a beautiful benevolent universe that is there to help you, even in social media, so thank you for asking that. Alexis: Yeah it's interesting you talk as well about that sort of, what is I see manifesting as fear of success in a lot of people, and this idea that we are afraid of our own talents and our own skills and tapping into what we know. And again a lot of people that I work with it is this like, this sort of "I need this amount of followers otherwise I'm not successful," and also absolute fear of creating the content that is going to maybe bring them those followers because "but what if I have those followers, what then?" You know, and the fear of but then all those people will see me, and there is so much confusion and fear in people around social media and I do think some of it is partly our brains are just we are not wired to stand in front of ten thousand, a hundred thousand, a million people, like we are not wired to have that experience and so when we do get to those numbers on social media it's a lot, like that's a huge amount to process and figure out and handle and none of us are prepared for that and also we're all so terrified to get there that we're all sort of "I don't want to put this out there, I don't want to do this thing. I mean like I want to do it but I don't want to do it," and it's just so sad to see people, and myself included, like I have not transcended this! But it's so sad because it seems to happen, I don't know that's not true. I think we see it a lot in people who have the the belief and the connection that what they're doing is important but that fear of success really really comes in versus the people who seem to not really have a fear of success seem to not be that tapped into what they're doing and it is really interesting to me to sort of see the the way that plays out in these sort of really small, micro business owners who are have really important stuff to put into the world and are absolutely terrified to get an audience that allows them to change large amounts of people's minds, to change a large amount of lives, versus the people who are quite happy to be out there talking to everybody and anybody who'll listen about stuff that makes them feel awful about themselves. It's so frustrating and I think so many people are also just like "what do we do about that?" You know, "what what do we do?" Because it is like you, say it is about reconnecting to ourselves and taking that time away and that feels like not trying to succeed because "but if we want to succeed we have to be posting, we have to be engaging, we have to be creating the content and putting stuff out there and telling people about things," but actually that's not true. Actually if we take some time away to reconnect and go "okay well what content is actually going to serve those people? What do I need to put out there right now? What matters right now? What are the big questions that people are asking me that I can help with?" If we take the time to sort of centre ourselves and go "okay, where can I help?" that is going to make such such a bigger difference to both your business, to yourself, to how you deal with social media, to your follower numbers, to all of those things than if you just go "okay I'm just going to keep posting this sort of content that I'm not like, I think it's okay, I like it but it's not really, it's also kind of hedging my bets and a bit, a bit like on the fence.
Lori:So I have a couple of things. I actually want to ask you a question, so why are we not wired to be in front of ten thousand, hundred thousand people?
Alexis:My thinking is just like we have not been in, like before the internet it was, maybe not specifically the internet but like TV, film, stuff like that, we just weren't in front of that amount of people, you know, it was small communities, it was small groups, we were focused on our neighbours and our families and our friends and that sort of small community of people, and we learned to connect with those people, to have conversations with those people, to speak to maybe that whole group and I just feel like there is a difference between. Because if you're speaking to that group of people who you socialise with and you know and you understand the dynamics of that group, that isn't something that easily translates to I am now talking to a hundred thousand people who I've never met before, I don't even know their names, I don't know where they are in the world, and so I feel like that is kind of a mind fuck for people.
Lori:Okay I'm really glad you answered it like that because this is so important. This is tapping into the belief system of immediate gratification because you just went from talking to your inner circle to 100 000 people, that's not actually how life unfolds, it's a journey right? And so this is what we're missing in social media. So I have heard people say you have as many followers as you have capacity for, and I'm never gonna say like that is a hard truth because nothing is a hard truth, which is why I asked you that question. We are available and able to create miracles, what do you practice? So if you practice talking to five people every single day you get really, really comfortable in it. Anything you practice you will get good at, so as you go from you know 100 followers to a thousand followers you practice during that time, right? You're engaging, you're sharing, maybe you're getting on video, you know, you're starting to do more and more things, this is the beauty of the unfolding journey. In our immediate gratification we're like no, we want a hundred thousand followers right now. You haven't gotten there, your energy hasn't gotten there. So you have to give yourself the time and space to allow your journey to unfold because it will come divinely if you put your energy there, if you truly believe in it, if you stay in your alignment, if you trust what you're doing, maybe it doesn't come this year maybe it doesn't come next year, maybe it comes in six years when you're ready or when it's divinely timed for you, right. So again this, I mean there's so many belief systems here, it takes us back to money, like money is happiness right? And if I have more followers I have more money, and that is like that is the biggest way to frustration and stress and fear that we can go. So when you get deeply into your present journey and what you're unfolding, and what you're creating, it's a really beautiful thing right, and so you take steps, you go more and more. I'm going to give you an example. A year ago oh my god, I knew I needed to create a digital course, for years I've known this, I've been like "I've got to get this information out, I have so much to share, I know it will change people's lives," and a year ago when I was learning, you know, I was doing the podcast thing and producing and like learning everything online, because I used to be an in-person practice, a digital course completely overwhelmed me but I was like no, I've got to do it. So I was like listening to the podcast, I was listening to Amy Porterfield or whatever right, I'm like I've got to do it but my body was saying no, every time I tried my body was like "no," and I finally just let it go and it's like I was letting go of money, you know, and I'm starting out a business and we do need money to survive, that's true, but if we can start to make some deep internal shifts around these beliefs and reframe them and actually start to enjoy the unfolding journey that every time you post you're practicing, and every time you're in alignment you're doing it in a deeper and more profound and exquisite way, and every time you're in alignment you might get one new follower, awesome! Right, who knows when the 100 followers a day comes, like who knows. That will happen when it comes but you do have to be intentional in the way that you do this, it does not mean you have to post every day because if you're exhausting yourself and stressing yourself out you're creating more of that that fear, the the push and pull that you're talking about. And so the other thing I wanted to tap into here Alexis is you said people are afraid of, have a fear of success and I feel like people have a fear of failure. Now if we reframe failure right it's like "oh I put myself out there and there were crickets," and I've done this right, I mean we all have if we're staying in this in this space, you know. And then I used to be like oh nobody believes in this, or it's not affecting them, and you know, and then the inner critic comes up and the judgments and all of that, but wait a second! If we do know that people have to hear something seven times, and there's a lot of noise out there, in order for them to truly connect, because a lot of times they're not in their present moment right, so you continue to bring them your message and if they're going to connect, you know, they will eventually. It doesn't mean it's going to happen the first time but that's the practice, you keep being intentional with your practice, you keep putting yourself out, every time you go on video it's new practice, so let's say it's to five people, and then it moves to ten, and then you know eventually a year later you're doing a video for a hundred people, and then a year after that you're doing it for a hundred thousand people, because we are made to create miracles and that's why I wanted to to focus and touch on that question because if we believe that we're not made to do that then we won't ever do it, because that's how powerful we are. So we actually have to work the most on our internal belief systems, on our place of alignment and gratification, like where does our joy come from? Because if it's only externally we're going to be in this really shitty loop for a long time, right? We really have to look on the inside and when you get more of that sovereignty and agency, when you connect so deeply with yourself and love yourself, this is why I do mirror work, right. Like if you can look in the mirror for a long time and be amazed at this body and this journey, like look at what you have been through, this human journey is not for weak. I don't know one human out there that is weak, you know. This is intense, it is a raw and wild ride, and when we have continual messages and continual noise coming at us it is essential that we get very clear and very deeply into a relationship with ourselves before anyone else, because when you have that love you are coming from a place of trust, you're coming from a place of excitement for the unknown, and you deeply, this is what I want for everyone and I had to work on this for myself, when you believe that there is no failure there's only more information it actually takes you to a new place, it helps you pivot, if you listen it gives you wonderful information to do something new. It does not mean to abandon your dream and your belief and your passion, it means let's create new possibilities here, let's look for new avenues. There's no failure and I think a lot of people that are at, you know. Not a lot, I'm not going to say that because there are people out there that I'm like how, how is there hundred thousand followers here? Like I'm so bored, like I'm not getting, you know, what I mean? This is not creating any kind of energetic match for me and and some, you know, that's okay, there's people that love that, they love somebody that just posts the memes or whatever right, and fantastic, that's the beauty of this, we all get to. You're gonna magnetise the people that believe in where you're going and what you're sharing, and you get to choose where your attention goes, and I mean I honestly, I cannot recommend enough detaching from anything that feels like it has an addictive tendency to it. Like if you feel like you have to get on your phone, like your body starts shaking or something, like that's something that we need to address because I mean I don't know that that's a good state of health for us to be in, right? We should be able to detach, we should, like you said, if we look back at our evolution how did we come in? We came in in nature, we didn't come in sitting in chairs all day and this is what I help people realise, that you have to create some space in your day to move your body, move the energy. If we're not moving the energy or our bodies that stagnation and that like frequency that is coming in it stalemates, it stays there, and if you don't move your body and open your cells get your blood and your energy flowing it can create havoc within ourselves.
Alexis:Yeah I want to mention as well, I have a short story about like my own, sort of, learning to let go, kind of, through technology. I used to wear a Fitbit and I got it basically primarily to track sleep. I also have obsessive tendencies about sort of food so when I recently moved and I decided I was gonna take my Fitbit off and my body response to that was very much "oh my god! Why? Why? Why?" And I was like why am I having this response? Like it's literally, it's not a big deal, you know, why does it matter? And I realised a lot of the reason I was having that response was that it was control, it was that was the habit, I always wore it and I checked my sleep in the morning to see how well I'd slept, because my Fitbit knows better than my brain! And it was just control, it was that control of like "but I have chosen to buy this and I have chosen to wear it and that's what I do," and when I stopped wearing it it was so strange to sort of let myself let go, and I think if you are somebody who is really on your phone and stuff it can help to maybe not start with your phone. If there are other things in your life that you know you have a potentially unhealthy connection with that you could practice letting go with, that you can practice going "okay I know that this is not actually bringing me anything useful or it's not in the way that I use it, this is not helpful for me," you can practice with other things that are a little bit less difficult. Because I do think we are in a place now where a lot of people because our businesses are on online, because of friends, especially at the moment you know all our friendships and our family connections are online, and so there is this whole thing around our phones as well now, it's not quite as simple as just put it down, don't look at it for a lot of people now, and so it can help to practice, to build up to that by starting with smaller things that maybe you do still feel are like but I do that, this is what I do every morning, this is a piece of technology that I, quote, need and to try and just practice with that, because it is kind of building that like muscle of agency and of self-trust and tapping into yourself, because maybe you sort of stop using that technology or whatever it is and you're like "yeah no, actually I did prefer having it," like that's fine, you've learned something, you know, and you've learned to check in with yourself around that, and then you can then apply that to the things that are maybe bigger and more difficult for you.
Lori:Yes so this is interesting about this because it's like a lot of us, and I did this for a long time in my practice is I would kind of coddle people along that were having pain and I realise now that I kind of did an injustice for them by doing that because why is it that we're trying to do the good habits but we easily do the bad ones? We don't even try to do the bad ones we just let them come on in, we practice them every single day, but we're trying to create a good habit. So this is like, it's, you know what I mean, the psychology of it, like why do we feel so comfortable in the things that create stress and fear and dis-ease and discontentment in our lives? We're so comfortable with them and we say we cannot, you know, we can try to leave them but like if you need them stay with them. I know I'm going hardcore with this Alexis but here's my take is we are in these human bodies, this one, this human body for this life right now, I want you to live not in the stress, not in the fear, I want you to live in the trust and the alignment and the love for yourself, I want you to live in robust mental health and that means that we understand the fluctuations but we allow ourselves to move through the fluctuations, we don't fear them, we don't resist them, right, we move into them and we ask for the help, we ask for the guidance and the support that we need during those times because we, like you, said we're humans we came in in supportive communities and we've created a pretty big fracture around there, right. And so in the way that I'm moving forward in the new earth is I'm not using the word try anymore, so if you choose to, you know, jump on social media as soon as you wake up every day, okay, go ahead, that's your choice right, it's your agency, that is your choice. If it doesn't make you feel good, if it's creating a negative frequency with you and you continue to choose it, that is still your choice, right. I think the more that we really just get real with ourselves about this and own it then maybe we won't have resistance in there right? I choose this, even though I know it's not making me feel good I choose it, I'm going to continue to choose it every day because that's what I'm doing. But how about this? This is what I want to pose to you, how about you choose a meditation, right, any meditation, there's tons of us are out here creating beautiful meditations for you, you don't even have to do it on your own you can push play, you choose a meditation and you choose to push play on that every day for a week and then I want to see where you're at after that week, because in my experience with the people that work with my meditations their lives change within a week, they change within a week. Is your life changing while you choose the other that could be creating the lower frequency for you? Does that change or does it maybe make you feel a little worse after a week? So if you can actually gauge these results, like give yourself a week, or give yourself, like instead of trying, and I appreciate that you said that because I think this is a really good conversation to bring to the table, instead of trying how about you go one day without social media, doesn't mean you don't use your phone and connect with your family and all of those things. I get on my email every day, I have a business to run. But go one day, see what happens, like see how your body tweaks out, like if you're feeling really like anxious because that's how invested you are in what's happening in social media, or see how maybe it feels a lot better to actually do something different for a day. I'll tell you what, since I got off social media a few weeks ago I have so much more time in my days so guess what I'm doing, I'm actually focusing on my email list, I'm focusing on writing some really great email chains for people that choose to come on my email list, I'm focusing on changing my website right, because we've been so programmed to believe that it's through social media that we get the people and rarely do I have people on my social media that jump on my email list but if I have a great website where somebody happens upon my website and they get drawn in because what I'm creating on my website and then they come on my email list which is what I own, I don't own social media, they could kick me off the social platform anytime for saying one word that they don't like, right. I also there's been several times during the day I'm like wow, what should I do? Like I have tons to do but I'm like wow, I have a lot of time because normally I would have jumped on, scrolled, checked my stuff, seen how many people liked my post or, you know, I don't like to leave comments hanging so if there's a comment, I don't even get notifications so I'll jump on, if I post something I'll jump on once a day to check the comments but I've only posted one thing in like three weeks, I think it's two or three weeks. But I'm just saying now all this time has been freed up for me to put more intention into business practices that could be a lot more solid, and I know your business is social media so I'm not trying to tell people to get off of social media and I will get back on, but I feel so differently about it and it feels really good so I have given myself the space to feel the results because I didn't try, I did it. And it might feel uncomfortable at first because when we change any habit, deeply ingrained habit, we can feel uncomfortable but we can do anything, we are built to do so much as humans, you know what I mean? Yeah so I just appreciate that conversation because I've had a long career working with people with pain symptoms and, you know, things like that and so I understand those very deep fears that come up and a lot of times it comes down to our ability to control our lives and I'll be real with you, because I've worked in childbirth too, the less we control the more we manifest and the more we hear and the more alignment we get into, and so you know there's a lot of mentors out there, there's a lot of people sharing some really wonderful tools, just breath work alone, you mentioned breath work, breath is life and we don't breathe because we're in fight or flight all the time, we're creating dis-ease and stress right, and so yeah so I'm going to push it back to you.
Alexis:Yeah, no, I want to say about the sort of, the social media is one of the things that I say to people is like you shouldn't just be on social media, like you should have an email list or a website or a group somewhere. Are we considering WhatsApp to be social media? But like you should be able to speak to your people off social media, like you should have somewhere that you can connect with those people if social media closed down tomorrow. And this was something that came up, obviously, when Facebook had their massive outage, was that last year or the year before? Who knows anymore! But yeah and a lot of people suddenly thought "I can't sell anything, my entire business has now closed down because Facebook is down," and that's a problem, like you do need to be off social media. And I think the other thing is that social media isn't a sales platform in that way, like social media is a relationship building platform, it's a networking platform, it's a connection platform, it's finding people who inspire you and who you can inspire them, and you can have those conversations and they can get to know you and you can maybe become a part of their life through the content you're posting on there so that you're there in their brain and they get to know who you are and what you do and that kind of thing, but it's not specifically a sales medium, it's really hard to sell on social media, especially for services because you don't have access to the same sort of selling tools that you do for product based businesses. And so I am totally with you on like build your email list, get your website sorted, like do those things, don't just sort of dive in and be like "social media is my thing, that's all I do, my shop is on social media, that's it," I would not recommend that at all. And I also think again, like you say, taking that time away allows us to engage with social media more effectively because a lot of, actually I put a post up yesterday that was about likes versus comments because I'd had a conversation with someone who was like "yeah well like when I like something that's me, like I'm supporting what they're doing" and I was like "but if somebody likes your content do you feel exactly the same about it as if somebody leaves a comment that shows that they've read it and they enjoyed it they share their opinion or whatever it is?" and they were like "uh well no, I guess not, I much prefer the comments," and I put up a post about it and all the comments are like "yes I love comments, why does nobody leave comments anymore?" and I was thinking well because you also don't leave comments now! We just like mindless scroll, like scroll, like scroll, like, and so if you take that time off social media to connect with yourself and slow down, when you are then on social media you have a little bit more brain space to engage with people and actually leave comments to connect with people, you have maybe a little bit more actual time, like a solid block of time rather than five minutes while the kettle's boiling or while you're on the toilet or whatever it is, you know, and so I do think that actually taking that time away and also focusing your business activities on things other than social media is really really beneficial, also to your social media if you choose to use it, so yeah no, I am all for that.
Lori:So I have a question for you actually because it's like a conundrum in social media right. So I totally feel and hear what you're saying and that it's social right, so if you want people to comment on your things, are you. Like I have to catch myself there because I'm so busy with my business that I'll like a whole bunch of stuff because I do feel like that's a way of showing them like I like this, I care about you and I care about what you're creating as well. And the more you are social, you know, then the more, I think, engagement you get in that way as well, I agree. Now here's the conundrum, so what you were saying before for the, you know, your clients and the people you're talking to is you know, they're like nervous about it but yet they want the 50k followers, is that still social? Because it doesn't feel social to me if you want 100k followers, it seems like you'd actually want to sell something if you're looking for that big following, because those people with those followers they follow about 400 people, right? But yet they have 100k followers or 20k followers, whatever it is, so to me that's not really lining up with the social aspect, so I want to actually highlight this because I think it gets confusing for people because they're like "oh no I have to be social, so then I have to follow everyone back that follows me" but yet also they want these big numbers in order to share their message, it's not you know. The thing is Alexis, we're selling something every day all day long, like even when you tell somebody about some amazing dinner you had you're selling them something, right, and so when we start to be real about that then it actually makes it easier to share what you're creating from your heart, you know. I hope that it's coming from your heart and what you're sharing what you really believe in, then it doesn't feel like the selling because you realise you're sharing things, you know, that maybe they really will change their lives, it will do something for them because that's what you believe in. So I feel like there's a conundrum between the being social and like following somebody back, they follow you, commenting on it, and then the I got 20 000 followers or whatever. I never see any of those accounts following 20 000 people too.
Alexis:Yeah, I think a lot of it comes down to largely I guess comparison, that a lot of people will look, especially when they start off on social media we look at like the other people in our industry that are doing really well and inevitably the ones we get shown are the ones with the biggest following and so we build this idea that success on social media looks like a large amount of followers, and then people like me are talking about how you need to be social and you're right, a lot of those accounts are not very social on social media, and there are accounts that aren't designed to be social, they're posting memes or they're sharing like funny stories or whatever it is and their purpose for being on social media is to post those things to make people laugh, to share an idea, to whatever it is, it's not to be social, and those accounts exist and that's fine and they can do their thing, that's their purpose, but I do think if your purpose is I want to work with people, I want to help people, I want to sell this thing to people because I care about it and you want to build a community, that involves you being social on social media and that is probably going to land you a smaller following because maybe what you're doing is very niche, maybe they need to be really a fan of you and your quote brand, sort of who you are, maybe that's going to be a smaller amount of people, maybe that's not going to be a million people, but that doesn't mean that you can't run a successful business, that doesn't mean that you are not a success, it doesn't mean that your social media isn't amazing it just means that your purpose on social media is different to the person who is just posting memes or whatever they're doing.
Lori:Yeah I mean that's, I just feel like you know there's a lot of inconsistencies as well, you know, and there is no one size force all or one size fits all, whatever you want to say, and that's where I feel like if we come back to our alignment and we come back to like a deep truth within ourselves and we're not basing who we are, what we do, we're not basing our lives on what happens on social media, then we come to the table in a whole new way, in a whole new strength and a centeredness and I think that that piece really starts maybe to get, it can get jaded or muddled or confusing when we are in the habitual addiction of it, right, when we don't take a second, you know. It's just like if you work a job, you're in the hustle culture, you work yourself, you're stressed, you're overwhelmed, you're basically living in stress and you never take a day off, right, you're going to feel those effects like no matter what you're going to feel those effects or it's going to create dis-ease later on in your life like, whatever it is right, the pain symptoms that come up, like this kind of habitual reaction can have the same effects and so I just feel like if you never take that time to even assess like who am I? Like I think we all need to have those days where we just spend time with ourselves, with nature, with like you know source energy, like whatever you want to call it if you believe in anything, but nature is healing, like there is healing properties in nature, in water, in fire, in earth, and air in breath, like all of the things. Drink a lot of water, like take a day and just drink water, right. I just, I feel like yeah I feel like it's an eternal conversation. I feel like there's always things and topics that are going to come up, it's the way of our world, but I think that as we move into, I do a lot with astrology too but as we move into the age of Aquarius which is about technology and our sovereignty and how we bring our sovereignty to the collective, not how we become like the collective right, so we get really strong within ourselves and our trust and what we're sharing with the world, and then we bring that out to the collective to make the collective stronger in all of our power right, and our sovereignty. So I think there's a way that we're really shifting with social media that I like a lot and I think there's a way that we're shifting with technology, because no matter what we're gonna use technology, like that is our lives and I love that you're having these conversations because I think it's so important that we continue to get new perspectives on it because maybe it gives us a little aha, or maybe our body consciousness like our cells awaken and they're like "oh oh my gosh that feels right/" Like oh and you know what I mean, it gives us a little perspective and I just love that you're doing this Alexis. I saw your training, I loved that, I love the passion that you have in this area and that you do want to really create a broad spectrum for people to hear and understand more about the internal workings of social media, but also the internal workings of our self in connection with social media, especially our mental health right, especially our trauma response, especially the belief systems and the comparison culture and the lack and the scarcity, it's so important that we talk about this and we continue to talk about it. thank you yeah i know it is it's
Alexis:Thank you, yeah, I know, it is, it's really important to me and I think partly because so much of the questions that I get are sort of, they come with a secondary question which is like "but nobody else is doing this, but nobody else says that I should be doing it this way, this is the opposite to what everybody else is saying," and my attitude is kind of like "but what do you actually want social media to look like in two years? In five years?" Because if you continue doing all of these things that you don't like, that you don't like seeing on social media, all the things that make you not like social media, then social media is going to keep going that way. Like if you want a different social media, if you want it to be about connection and be slower and be more intentional and community focused, it starts with you, it starts with how you use social media, and so I think it is really important, like you say, to have the conversations and to share that idea because we have to shift how we interact with social media for social media to change.
Lori:Yes yes yes yes! And I just want to say, I also want to mention again when, because you brought up like the fear of posting something that feels really in alignment or our authentic self, the fear of the trolls coming up or getting clap backs or whatever, I say do it and do it now because that is how you practice being in your sovereignty, that is how you practice creating beautiful boundaries for where you are and who you are in this life, and the more you practice it the easier it gets, the more we practice anything the easier it gets, right. And the more that you are in that sovereignty, the less you live your life based on someone else's thoughts, judgments, opinions, whatever, right, and so when you practice that I promise you it will transform and it will shift, and it's a beautiful feeling, it really is. I love that I have created a very intentional practice for myself and I love that I get to share that with people as well and so I just want to encourage you to like take the leap, right, we get so used to not taking risks because of scarcity that's not even real, the scarcity that we're sold is not real because we actually do, we live in a very fractured and imbalanced culture but we also live in a very benevolent universe and and planet, and so you know, learn to step out and trust taking the risks because when we don't take the risks we stay smaller than we were ever meant to be, and when you actually shine your light brighter, when you show people like nope, I'm not available for that, there's a reason there's delete, there's a reason there's a block, this is the energy I'm putting out and I want everyone who wants to be here to feel that energy, you show other people that sovereignty, you share that light with other people and it allows other people to shine their light that way as well and we get bigger and bolder, and this is how we do create really fractured systems together.
Alexis:Yeah and that is a wonderful place to end and it has been such a joy to chat to you, honestly, it's been fabulous. If people want to find you on social media, or indeed not on social media, where can they find you?
Lori:Oh Alexis thank you so much, I've very much enjoyed this conversation, I'm very grateful that you've had me on and the easiest way to actually get in touch with me is my website which is TheRawAndWildHearts.com, it has all of my offerings, it has lots of free offerings but I love my social media too do not get me wrong, I do love sharing on there and I will be back this is just a temporary shift which is what I needed for myself and my alignment, but my social media is the Raw And Wild Hearts, my YouTube is the Raw And Wild Hearts, Instagram, it's just the moniker The Raw and Wild Hearts because this is a raw and wild ride!
Alexis:Very good, I will put of course all of the links in the show notes so people can find you super easily. This has been, like I say, just so, it's so lovely to talk to you, thank you so much for being here. Lori: Yes thank you so much Alexis, have such a beautiful day.
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